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he's getting 700 letters a week from people around the country. to the backbench, a junior member from georgia who is already achieving a national power. >> watch after words on c-span2's booktv. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> good morning everyone! welcome to the third mississippi book festival. i am chris goodwin with the
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department of archives and history. i've been asked to remind everyone that you're more than welcome to take photographs. you can post to social media and the # is -- this is the library of congress panel sponsored by the mississippi humanities council and the first mississippi friends of the library. mississippi is fortunate to have so strong a supporter of the literature, music and arts as congressman gregg harper. now in his fifth term in the united states house of representatives, congressman harper cochairs the committee o house administration serves on the house many of energy and commerce for joint micommittee printing and perhaps most importantly, for us today, the chair of the joint committee of the library of congress. here is congressman gregg harper. [applause] >> thank you so much. what a great day for
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mississippi. the third annual mississippi book festival. all of the work that has been done, you cannot say not to all of the people that have participated. it is my honor to have in mississippi, doctor carla hayden who is 1/14 librarian of congress. sworn in on september 14 of 2016. so still new on the job. and we had an edible day yesterday with her here in the state library commission and also we had just an amazing day. it was great. so i want you to know that when we, when you talk of rockstar status -- and i see susan here. when we had her with about 100 librarians stacross the state, was like elvis was in the room. [laughter] it was pretty special.
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also, probably at about 1015 we will open this up for some q&a. there is a podium in the back in the middle of the room there that you see with the microphone. if you have a question that you want to ask please feel free to go there. we were trying to get as many as we can in a 15 minute span and do that as well. and so, we please have a given war mississippi welcome to dr. carla hayden. [applause] >> i just want to tell you how much we appreciate you taking the time out of incredibly busy schedule to come and join us. and we had a very busy day yesterday, how was that experience for you. >> a world wind. i just want to thank you when you mentioned that the
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librarians from all of the state. a second oxymoron. a librarian and a rock star. what was so, just inspiring and just reaffirming was that the fact that librarians and people to love books and reading, it is a community, it does not matter where you are, your state or in fact you remember chairman i also forgot where was because i was around my library peeps. i was like where am i? that is what unifies everyone. in mississippi it is such a strong tradition of strong library service. >> we estarted the day at the supreme court building of the state law library and that was an amazing experience to learn that the state of mississippi, which became a state in 1817 and 1818, was already planning and a resolution for the
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purchase of books and maps to preserve that history. >> it was very similar history of the library of congress. we had a recognition that members of any legislative body needed to refer to books and to get information and so i think that in fact, mississippi may have been just a e little bit o the library of congress with some of that. it is amazing, the library of congress was created in 1800. that is a long time ago. we have only had 14 librarians of congress! >> it has been a long time. [laughter] and i can see why. going into my anniversary, it is such a wonderful resource. it is of course, the world's largest library. and it has grown into a
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resource for people in this country in ways that i am not even sure everybody recognize. that is another thing you will hear me talking about. >> how many millions of items are in the library's collection? >> well, 164 million items. 836 miles of shelving. that would be from where we are now in jackson mississippi all the way to davenport, iowa. so think about shelving. [laughter] it has a lot shelving! >> this crowd thinks about shelving. >> and putting things back, think about that. so we have a very robust staff. the staff members are really, when you think about all of the collections, the world's largest collection of baseball cards. the world's largest collection of comic books. the first superman, the first
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bat -- i see a lot of young people in the audience good look at this. they are like, really? and just about every subject that you can think about. the library of congress has something about it. >> let's talk about how you got into the library. because that was, as a young graduate you were looking for a job, right? >> and now you are revealing something. i think i said this publicly before and it was wonderful yesterday to be at the mississippi supreme court. where the wonderful law library and and everything because there was a time after i graduated from a public service university, roosevelt university started by eleanor roosevelt. and it was the tradition of public service so i majored in history, political science and i was thinking okay, what now?
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but i needed employment. and unfortunately, a lot of the people who might have thought about employing me said you do not have experience. all you have done is go to school. yes, there are some recent graduates here. what have you done? so but i love books and libraries and b things. between job interviews i would go to the central library at the chicago public library. i was sitting there waiting on the next interview trying to think of some way to explain not having work experience. and a gentleman came up and say hey, carla! he just graduated with me. he said are you here for the library job? they are hiring anybody! [laughter] anyone with a undergraduate degree. right? i thought, hey, i am here, i like it.i went upstairs and
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just to let you know, he did not get a job, i did. [laughter] he made out all right!he is a company now. but, then i was assigned to a small front on the southside in chicago. with a young lady -- she would not nine say this, who was on the floor when i arrived with blue jeans on and she was having a storytime with children with autism. and i said, this is a little different. and it was about opening the doors to everyone to reading. and she was in graduate library school. that is when i found out, there is a profession? i mean you knew librarians and things but i did not know -- >> he >>did not plan to be a librarian. >> i am accidental librarian. i'm truly the definition. but a lot of people -- i mean
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it just opened the world to me. it did. and it was something that matched -- my parents were old classically trained musicians and things like that. so by the age of 12 we all knew that was not going to be my path. but we also knew that i related to text with a related to notes in music. so they would look at musical notes and hear sound. i would look at words and i would hear people talking. in my head. >> that's great, i know your mom is watching. >> she's watching and listening and will critique. [laughter] >> as soon as we get home. >> you may want to check your phone. >> luckily my mom has not advanced in technology. i'm not going to let her. [laughter] >> that would be dangerous. >> she's a lovely lady. we hope you'll get her down. >> she encouraged me in terms of
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reading and i remember she would read and that's what we tried to do in terms of the -- that's why this festival is so important, making reading fun or something you want to do and not just a chore. bit, you work at the chicago public library, you get your first real job there after graduating from college. so, to get from there, you have this incredible journey because i think you knew early on this was what you loved and wanted to stay in this profession. >> right. i knew from that first storefront to the fact t f that wow, they pay you to introduce people to books and reading and being around all the books and librarian secrets, you get to see all the new books as soon as they come in. they are fresh and they smell good okay. [laughter]
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and then, but this love, they said you really have a passion for reading. it has been such a joy, a solace for me all my life. >> your leadership skills have obviously been recognized from the very beginning, but your long tenure of a ceo of the phoenix pratt free ivory in maryland is probably why you were able to come into this position and you were there from 1993 until 2016. >> right. >> you are also the president of the american library association back in 2003 and four. your leadership skills have long been recognized. share a little bit about that experience you had at the free library. what did thatterrele mean. a lot of people don't know the history and what he meant to education.
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>> mr. pratt was a yankee, i'm in mississippi so i will say he was a yankee from middleborough massachusetts who went sout at south to baltimore to make his fortune. his father had made nails and was in hardware and mr. pratt came down in 1856 and made his fortune there. he was a contemporary of other well-known people in baltimore at the time that made fortunes, and the each picked a public institution to support. mr. hopkins h to the university, mr. peabody did a museum, and mr. pratt, who never had children, they still talk about that, he said he wanted to give the library to the city and he said i want my library to be free of politics and religion and he set up this free public library and
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mr. andrew carnegie, who is largely credited with starting the public library system in the united states wasn't having such a successful time when he was first trying to give libraries to communities, and he heard about mr. pratt in baltimore and he came down to baltimore and mr. pratt took him around and then he went off and said mr. pratt was my pioneer and so there's that tradition there. >> what that meant to you, to go there and follow in their history. >> you, have broken a lot of barriers, and it has taken a while to break those barriers. for one reason, they're only 13 librarians before you so they don't give those up once they get theme and we expect you not to give yours up. >> in the names of those librarians, daniel, and john, ts one and that one, and then carl carla.
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[laughter] i think she's female. >> for you to be the first woman librarian, the first african-american librarian, you look around the room and there are a lot of young people in this room. there certainly watching on tv , what you do to encourage someone who thanks their obstacles in their way. how do you share your story. >> well they're not just imagining obstacles, there are obstacles and in terms of my story, being s a female and you noticed i pointed that out, librarianship is one of the four summarized professions. social work, education, nursing and librarianship. in fact, my favorite movie ending is it's a wonderful life and remember at the end when he comes back and what would've happened and she's coming out of the library, fate worse than death.
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[laughter] librarians have a very strong stereotype and these feminized professions, 85% of the workforce is usually female but the top management doesn't reflect that. being a female leader in the profession has been very, hopefully heartening for some of the young women that are in the profession, but also, being a person ofen color, and it's so significant to be here in jackson where just yesterday, we were at the camera commemorative marker just yesterday and thema celebration of the fact that people wanted to read and integrate a public library meant so much for me being an
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african-american in this situation. >> and that was the trail marker at state street, just put up on thursday. it's really a remarkable story, and these were all students at tupelo. >> yes. [applause] >> one of the great things they shared with us, about that story, was the fact that they were all students at two glue, they all went to check out books that were not on the campus library, that were only available there, and they were just sharp. they looked like young professional. >> that was so fun to think about. they did the research, they made sure, they went to the card catalog and make sure the books they were requesting were not available tha at the
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branch that was used by african-americans so they couldn't be referred. they used a really good library track in terms of that , these books are not available. they're only available right here. >> and i couldn't search those online, and they had the evidence that these books were not available anywhere else, and that's what really pushed the issue.el so looking and thinking of young people now and the obstacles they face, in fact, having so much technology and so muchng information is being called a firehose of information. how do you decide and things like that, that just having that great, it's not just because i'm here in mississippi, grit and grits. >> i had some last night. >> but determination, and also , sticking close to family and friends, those are your best partners whenever you are facing anything, and then to
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realize that tomorrow things might look a littleciny better. >> and you have, your work and your leadership, how you are encouraging so many people, there's still a lot of first to be done out there in the world, and they will look to you is that example. i think that's one reason, in 2016, fortune magazine named you as one of the top 50 leaders in the world. >> and myy mom, oh, thank you. [applause] my mom clipped it out but it's so nice because every time she tries to tell me something i say could you look at this. >> and then she explains, the only reason you got that is because of her. >> there you go. that's how that works. >> you also got to read a children's book yesterday with some of the young students from the mississippi school for the deaf, and what an experience.
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>> i think what that showed, you were withnk me, to see their eyes light up with that book, and with the interpreter and ththen it just became the book and the child, and that's the ultimate. then when we told them, and we gave each child a copy of the book, and one young lady signed and she said can i take it home and we said this is for you, and she just hugged of the i book. she just hugged the book. >> did, she made some arts and craft. >> the rainbow fish. >> we had everything, all things glitter. >> all things glitter until young ronnie said this is nice with the glitter and everything, can we make a shark and then all the kids wanted to make fins. that power, and then they wanted to write their names in the book and so they would
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sign the letter and write the name because with the love of reading, with this festival you can buy books, you can borrow books, you can lend books and get them back, but it doesn't matter. if you are a reader, you will read the back of a cereal box. a look. you will read anything. you just read stuff and that's the key. when you start, has anybody ever purchase the same book twice. [laughter] because you knew you like it and magazines are terrible because you definitely get the same magazine. that's when you know you might have a problem. and books, her house. >> we understand they may have clean that up a little bit but there were books everywhere.
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>> everywhere, on every surface. >> and she was very happy to see that. >> i felt better about my house. i said oh great. >> you've not quite been on the job a year, but you are sworn in september 14 of 2016. tell us how that experience was of having president obama call you to tell you they were going to name you to be the new library and. >> at first you have to realize that it is a real call and then you hear someone say would you serve as the 14th librarian of commerce and that was the key word for me that you would serve because it gets to the concept, and in the library of congress is a wonderful exhibit about bob hope, the comedian, andfu his
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daughter is working with us now to emphasize that he used his comedic genius to serve the troops. whatever profession you're in, everybody can serve. that was the key for me and really the part that said okay, what can i do at the library ofca congress and it's really opening up the library of congress. you can fill in the blank in the library of congress has it and you can connect with it, there's a table, we have a table outside with all the projects, and even a bookmark that emphasizes, ask a librarian whether you're visiting the library of congress in person or online, ask us a question and receive expert assistance from our librarians and subject specialist, and then there's the tin man here, if i only had a librarian.
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>> that's great. that is great. what an incredible experience that must've been to know, not only were you getting the dream job of every librarian in the world. >> that and owning a bookstore. >> yes, there you go. >> you can do both. that's a possibility. too do that and about two months into the job you're at the gershwin awards. can you tell us a little bit about what thatu is from the library of congress and that first experience. >> well, the library of congress has so many collections. they have the collection of george gershwin, the great american composer that you think summertime, you think all that. each year the library of congress gives an award to an outstanding contributor to american song, and two months
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in i was asked to present the george gershwin award to mr. joe robson. let me just say, val is not a hardship. i thought, i remembered what my grandma used to say when my grandma was doing different things in librarianship. she never thought being a librarian would lead to all this. i knew she was really looking down onn that one. to have him come to the library of congress and see his scores for all of his wonderful songs next to the original manuscript of summertime in george gershwin's hands, and i brought him to tears because he said my work is now here and recognize with george gershwin. and then he sang.
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it was tracks of my tears. i know. it was a moment. it was something. >> that's one of the perks of the job. all the other work and i know we can't go any details. well, here's another thing i had to call mr. tony bennett. i know. such a hard thing and that's what i want young people to know too, especially librarians. library of congress is not soar bad. mr. tony bennett, the first person to be given the gershwin award for his interpretation of popular song and he was so touched and said am i really the first person, and the people who are going to be part of this program, i
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can't tell it yet because were still confirming but let's just say old, mature, old genre country, everybody's gonna be there to pay tribute to mr. tony bennett. >> no one has done more with the duet collection. >> just think of all the people. >> that will be televised usually in february of the following year. >> ) the concert usually happens in november. the last one was really something. the expense of the library of congress, and just what this festival is also illustrating is the unifying power of the arts. music and literature and, in fact, last year mr. samuel jackson was the mc and, at one particular smokey robinson song, was at my girl? you were singing.
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>> well, not well. [laughter] but my lips were moving. let's just say we had everybody from every party, every state, everything and as he said, this is bipartisan karaoke. [laughter] [applause] it was something. everybody knew the words. >> of course on the news, we see all the divisiveness sometimes between the parties. >> in between everybody. >> but this is something that brings people together. >> right, and this festival is bringing people together and that's what you will see. just in the room, the diversity, the different interests, and that's why there's something for everyone and that's what this will really illustrate and i think we can all enjoy it. just have fun with it. >> that's one of the things, as a member of congress that has been my diversion in life is the things that the library
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of congress have been on the committee and joint committeesn of the library of congress and i got there a half years ago. it is remarkable. when you look for that where the parties do need to come together and work together, whether it's the gershwin awards or the songs, tell a little bit about the congressional dialogues, where we packed them in, republicans and democrats, senators and house members. >> too really get a sense of what the current authors are and even authors who are writing about history, and what's been very heartening for me when i listen to the discussions in the question and answers "after words" is this genuine, i think everyone in this country should be very heartened by this, the genuine interest in history and working out, and it's called congressional dialogue. it's around book but it's
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really about a dialogue about the ideas and books. >> you were doing probably about ten of those years. >> ten. year. >> and they are in the grand hall. >> and it's about books. >> and they are beautiful, we have a dinner where everyone comes together and you have a topul writer who has a biography on maybe a former president, maybe someone who wasn't a president but very important in history, and the best thing is when dinner is over, what do the members all get. >> a a book. >> not just a book. >> an autographed book. >> there youou go. rememberbo i mentioned charles hugged the book, there are a few members of congress that were hug in the book. i noticed that. but that's what i think we should all really celebrate, there's a reason why it's called a love festival. it's something and you can see people and talk about it, and when you see people, the library of congress is working
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with the rule archives in windsor for the first time, the papers and materials from george and our george washington and the library of congress have the papers of 23 presidentson. for the first time there will be papers from the to george's. what was interesting is those two men were reading some of the same books at the same time. what is it's really look at that. the unifying power of books. >> in the history that's available to anyone. >> online, our website, we are digitizing more things, we just put the papers of rosa parks online, you can download so many things, we put, i'm a baseball fan so we put the scouting reports.
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>> people do not know what a baseball junkie you are. >> , fan. >> i don't know, maybe more than a fan. >> i did want to be a shortstop when i was ten. my grandfather lived in springfield illinois and he was one of those baseball fans that would have two radios going, to on the porch and then there was a little black-and-white tv and he would take me down to see the st. louis cardinals, and that was a biges deal. >> so you started out as a cardinals fan, you still are a cardinals fan, but you're also maybe another fan. >> there's a team in chicago where people are still recovering from that. i hear they're doing pretty well. i don't know if the city could take it. >> they would accept it, but the cubs and that, so you have
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that. >> what a great year was. >> when i found out that the library of congress has the scouting reports of the legendary baseball scout ricky , and to read his scouting reports of hank aaron, ernie banks, he says he has some talent. to see these reports in what he said about these players and his relationship with jackie robinson archive, all of these treasures, there just isn't a subject that you can think of, and that's what's been the greatest joy for me. the greatest joy has actually been working with the staff. >> and then the surprise is how many things are still being discoveredin. >> and that is, with the hundred 64 million items in the collection, you probably can't know what's in every
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file in every neck and cranny, but share the story, of course your office and i look for reasons to go to her office, there are three buildings in washington. >> the beautiful older building is the jefferson building. your office is across the street in the madison building , all glass with an outside area overlooking the capital. it is the spot to go. >> that building is the only, the james madison building is the only official memorial to james madison in the capital and the jefferson building name for thomas jefferson who actually sold his collection to congress after the british came, that's why there's this exhibit about the to george's always forgiven now.
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but the british burned the capital, library of congress was in the capital. there's a fireplace in the capital and he said the british use some of the books from the library of congress to start the fire. >> when you talk about those treasures, there's a beautiful ceremonial office that you have. >> right. >> in the madison building, they opened in the 1980 and that's where the librarian's office went. the working office. in thed jefferson building they are open the first building to have electricity so when you visit, we will also have a virtual tour on our websites you can visit wherever you are , you see both of the light fixtures have the bolds exposed because they were so proud. there's a wonderful librarian's office and it's like a little jewelbox. we opened it up for the public
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to look at, and you will see a door, that a 1975, the then librarian who was going into this new office and he saw door and he tried to open it and it wouldn't open so they found a key and then behind the wooden door was a bank vault door. now that was something. no one knew the combination. the legend goes, we've heard a certain gentleman that has those skills. [laughter] was excused for a short period of time to open the safe, and when they opened it there was only one thing and it, a small black box, and when he opened
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the box there was a letter and it said these are the contents of abraham lincoln's pockets the night he was assassinated. it was given to the library of congresssa by abraham lincoln's granddaughter. in that box were two pairs of spectacles, a little cloth for him to clean them. he had about six or seven articles about him, some good, some not good. he had a confederate five-dollar bill because he just visited the southt recently. he also had a little pocket knife and something that really humanized, he had a handkerchief that had his monogram, but then there was a button from his coa coat.
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you think about what you do. you should know, when i became librarian of congress i looked at every drawer around every place. that's the great thing. the library started in 1800, and overtime materials can come in. susan b anthony's papers, they have all of these things, football fields worth of materials. people retire and the person who knew about it and someone comes in years later and pulled down a box and there's teddy roosevelt's diary that
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he carried in his pocket and he opened it and he says on february 14, my life is over because his wife and his mother died in the same house on february 14. we have got to digitize the things, we've got to really make them available because that's what brings you and i to our history. >> how you bring that together and how you open up the public, i think that's been amazing, your work and your mission that you set forth because as much as we would love to have every person in america come to personally physically visit the library of congress, they can't, it's not going to happen so tell us what you're doing for that outreach, particularly inn rural america and share what you're doing there. >> from using technology as a
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tool, i mentioned the website. two communities in schools and libraries, when there arear programs in washington though be able to do that, traveling exhibits, and they will start seeing 18 wheelers pulling up in two communities and you'll have library and invite us in, the centers for the book as well as a veterans history project, there will be a mobile app so veterans can start submitting their oral histories. we are going to be inundating people, we will not be the best kept secret, but we want everyone to know that the library of congress is the nations library. this is your library andcr so we are doing so much more to just let everybody fill comfortable and let them know what we have to offer.
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>> and look at what's available online already. >> we are starting a program very shortly called citizen historian based on a program at the national archives has already started where we are asking people to help us process and look at and p translate from the cursive, a lot of these documents have to be translated because people can't read cursive like they did before. we are really reaching out to everyone to say hey, we've got a lot of things and we want to make them available. technology is going to be a great tool. >> you talk too, the different collections were people have donated. >> oh my goodness. >> this is the thing that i'm sure you probably, knowing you and your love for books in the
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history, you've had many presidents and many others who have donated their personal in-home library. what is that experience been. >> there's another movie about oliver wendell holmes, and at the end of the movie, he talks about donating this and that two different institutions, but he says i will give my books to the library of congress. the library of congress says the personal library, ralph ellison, you think about looking at what people produce and what were they reading. we will be putting those types of things on display. of course we have thomas jefferson's library.
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>> thomas jefferson really helped the library of congress. >> after the fire, he had already retired to monticello and he had the largest private library. he was able to sell his library to the congress. they should not have to refer you can see some of the original books as well.
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>> you've had some really amazing things that are being done, but fast-forward from 6000 folks from thomas jefferson in the 1800s to today, on average, how many items does the library receive each day? every working day, and that's just because of gettingg deliveries,e 20000 items. think about that, 20000 items coming in. thee production process is quite an operation. if you have a question, come get online. we will try getting some of those in just a moment. when you look at those and what's been done, you're getting duplicates of each book, tell us about the surplus book program. >> i'm so glad you mentioned that. we were able toch donate. each congressperson is able to do that, work with the library of congress to get donations
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of surplus books. when we say surplus, were not talking about used, were talking about brand-new books that are coming in that can be part of recovery efforts, for instance when you have the damage of here in mississippi, we were able to help in terms of providing materials there and school libraries, community centers, anything that we would able. >> it's an amazing thing that goes there. let's stop just a minute and we have a question here. >> thank you for your time. i have a question specifically about some of thehe databases and the different types of interfaces that are available through the library's website. one of the things i'm wondering is if there's any direction in the near future about making them more friendly for people on the autism spectrum, 504 students,
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expect students to give younger students a better opportunity to do their own primary research at younger age ages, and if there's anything or anyone exploring those options. thank you. >> thank you for bringing that to light. that's a major focus when you mentionng german harper, it's not only letting everybody know but letting it be easier for people to access the material. the library has been embarking on digital strategy and we are examining ways we can use technology more effectively. we have refreshed the website and you'll be seeing more and more of that so thank you for that. i also want to mention, when i mentioned the beautiful jefferson building and what we did yesterday with the
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mississippi school for the deafth and our national service for the handicap, we just instituted a tour for the jefferson building that we call the most useful building in washington d.c. for people with visual challenges and so you can go into the building and still experience the architecture. we are very concerned but excited about what we can do to really make assess ability a part of everything we do were also capturing our film series. >> and that's at the heart of doctor hayden, to reach out with those of disabilities of all kinds and make that assessable. thank you. next question. >> hi, i'm a historian so i have to thank you for the wonderful resources that i've their both in person and
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online. i was curious, as you look forward, what you think the library looks like in 50 years. with 20000 items, will there be an off-site, maybe there already is an off-site that i'm not aware of. >> the website, what you see 50 years from now. >> all we know is that doctor carla hayden will still be the library and. [applause] >> and i will look like that lady coming out of it's a wonderful life. >> that's the exciting part, and that's where yesterday with my library colleagues because all libraries are engaged in that type of visioning of the library of agthe future, and for the library of congress, it's also our conservation and preservation role as well.
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we have unique materials and a lot of college and special libraries, i have to give a shout out. people listening and watching may not know that the university of southern mississippi has one of the most important archives of children's literature in the world. themo curious george, they have the archives with curious george, and these are unique materials that are always going to need to be conserved and stored for the library of congress, for instance has a number of storage modules with additional shelving and its condition control so it's not just putting things away somewhere, it's temperature
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control and security and all of these things because with the digital, were also all concerned about how do we preserve digital copies of thingsce and update the technology as the technology changes. so the library of congress has embarked on a digital strategy and storage planning, but also looking at the fact that in the future, you will see some of the changes in the next three or four years when we go into the buildings and their more interactive, they're more displays, the library of the future have to build quite spaces because they're active. you go into a library now and there's nong shushing. they had a coke machine and you can eat in the libraries and they are gathering places
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and they can make things so you will see a lot of libraries that will make different spaces to do different things. people can look at collections , they can create more, they're going to be quite exciting. >> the very first one-on-one meeting that you and i had, i mentioned curious george and what might you wish to do in the future? i know you visited with some folks yesterday. >> there is the exhibit that's now in japan, and we have to wait two years to get it with the library of congress, but we are on the list and it really is a wonderful display and people don't realize what you have. >> they had to escape ,-com,-com ma and they were
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jewish, and curious george, the reason why i think he's lasted so long is because everyone's curious, but they had to usene bicycles to escape and it's just a wonderful story. >> next question ma'am. >> it's an honor to be here. i wanted to ask something of you, not just ask a question, but were from louisville mississippi and there we found a need, a deficit in reading comprehension and all that. we found a group called black girls read and we came down here to meet you. we have approximately 30 girls k-12 today, maybe about 20 toda today. >> were right back here. [applause]
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>> we inspire our girls to read. right now they're reading midnight without a moon by linda jackson so we are going to go see her, but our girls, we want to inspire them. we want to let them know they can do or be anything they want to be. they will be future carla hayden's. what i mean is to ask you if they would please stand up. if you would inspire them with just a few words. >> you inspire me because you're the future. look at you guys. wow. [applause] i love it because you young ladies, you have different outfits come you all have a t-shirt, you know i'm trying to get a t-shirt, just saying, but you've got, that's the other thing, reading can be
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cool and you can still do your thing and read and read what you want and this is just, just take advantage of it and know that you can do anything. one of the joys of working with young people, and i want to get all of your names because in that 20 years or so, when you become, you're an author or you're doing your thing, don't forget us. we will be able to say that one of the members, a couple of the members are all of the members of this group are now doing this, this and this and we were there when they got started. so now that we are all here to support you. >> invite us to the emmys and the whatever, will be there saying we knew her. that's just another thing you have to deal with. >> thank you.
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>> and will find a way to come visit. >> or would you. that would be great. [applause] we've got time for these to ask questions. go ahead. >> hello. [inaudible] the books are used all over the world. my question first to the member of the commission of the united states congress congressman, if you can, the next question actually should be asked by my wife, and that is to all of you, on july 30 a place of worship, one in the
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basilica of the vatican and the other ones, the 14 century in india and the third is not really a museum but a place of worship in india, we know that she's a vice chair. we did it for all of you. my question to you. all my books, i've got 24 books and they're being used all over the globe.
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they have isbn numbers can they be attached a digital copy. >> this is a nonprofit. can we do that, and if it can be done,. [inaudible] >> well, the library of congress has six overseas offices that have people who are from various countries who catalog andnd bring materials into the global spheres and we will get your information to connect you through those special catalogers. many of it is in other language other than english and it collects in 170 languages and we have experts
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in washington but also in these other areas of the world. we would definitely get your information and make sure you're connected. >> make sure you have time for this one last question.su >> is it being done in jackson mississippi around thehe globe, can we get a digital copy. >> i'll find out. >> we will discuss that sir. >> thank you so much credit has been such a i joy talking with you. my rich history as his lov love for readings. i heard he was reading it and it was so inspiring and i
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wanted to know, can you be a good leader without being a good, reader, and what book had the most profound impact on the trajectory of your life. >> i will start with the second one because the book that i talk about all the time , and it's in the collection and they told me aboutth it is april. it was written in 1956. i was not alive them. let's make that clear. it was a book about a young african-american girl to pigtails and she was a brownie and she was about eight years old. some librarian in queens new york put that book, i love that sel book because i saw
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myself for the first time in that book. they can be windows, they take you everywhere but they also need to be mirrors. because if we are saying to kids and young people that books are so important and then they don't see themselves reflected in it, what is that saying? it's a double message. all readers can be leaders and you've got two rows of them right here. [applause] everyone, that concludes our conversation with carla hayden, the 14th librarian of congress. can we express our appreciation. [applause] >> thank you. get some more books. gets more books.
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and my mom thanks you too because she's watching. >> thank you so much. [inaudible conversations] >> everything was devastating for him at the end. he was really, in some ways, isolated and alone sunday
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night on q&a and his biography. >> he trusted the russian people, the soviet people. he trusted them to follow him wherever they had not gone before. he trusted them to follow him as he moved the country toward a market economy. he trusted him to follow him and trust him as he made peace in the cold war against the ancient enemy, the united states. he trusted them too much, it turned out. >> sunday night at 87 on c-span q&a. >> the book is called job creation, how it really works and why government doesn't understand it. the co-author is andy. mr. pozner, you talked about certainty factor.

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